Last week, our co-founder Rafal Cymerys was invited to join Bloc Thinking Podcast with two amazing hosts: Werner Puchert and Jonathan Gall.

Rafal Cymerys podcast

Listen to their conversation that covers a number of topics including:

  • the difference between solving machine problems vs. solving people problems
  • challenges and findings while designing without visual interface
  • impact of language and accents while working with voice
  • the why behind focusing solely on voice

And also bits and pieces of Rafal's personal story: why being just a software engineer became boring, how Upside came to life and what are the plans for the future.